A new peer-reviewed study by Norwegian researchers has recently been published titled “Association between Face mask use and Risk of SARS-CoV-2 Infection – Cross-sectional study”.
As has become common for me with your postings for some reason, I will comment on it first without reading it and then again after I have read it. While bias is a problem with all research, masks have long been known to have perverse effects against virus control. That is, they have been known to aid in the transmission of viruses rather than reduce them.
Will read after doing the next on the “Honey do” list.
Even in a highly controlled environment face masks don't provide 100% efficacy against airborne pieces of RNA/DNA!
"Results
Significant virus counts were detected on the face while the participants were wearing either surgical or N95 masks. Only the fit-testPASSED N95 resulted in lower virus counts compared to control (P = .007). Nasal swabs demonstrated high virus exposure, which was not mitigated by the surgical/fit-testFAILED N95 masks, although there was a trend for the fit-testPASSED N95 mask to reduce virus counts (P = .058). HEPA filtration reduced virus to near-zero levels when combined with fit-testPASSED N95 mask, gloves, gown, and face shield."
As far as I know, 3M has not run any adds in Japan for their N95 respirator and a reader recently told me that he has not seen nor heard any in the US either. Right in the insert that comes with the respirator is a listing of what it is rated for use against and bacterial is mention as it not being rated for and viruses are not mentioned at all. As the bacteria they note or bigger than the viruses of concern for humans, right there the manufacturer is letting its customers know that the N95 should not be used against viruses. I bet they are happy for the extra revenue but nervous as everyone is using it ways they say not to. But, they re not advertising for it to be used against SARS cov 2.
Just so you know, I am certified in respirator use and knew since long before the panic that they are not to be use as they have been telling us to these past almost 4 years now. I also have long known that they are not benign.
I really do think they are probably quite nervous about it all. There are plenty of adds online anyway, for this and that mask, but I have never seen one for a N95.
Around half here in Tokyo are still wearing masks. Still seeing double masked and masked with face shields too. Madness. Surreality.
Ah, excellent, Guy, for you to look at this one--as a resident in Norway (and frequent reporter--see my Substack), I briefly considered 'participating', if only to see what kind of BS these people were doing.
Two brief things to note (which I may or may not discuss in a posting on my own, who knows, since you already pointed out the most absurd issues):
* the last author, Preben Aavitsland, is kind of one of my bete noires here in this entire shitshow masquerading as a 'public health emergency'; he's one of Norway's leading pro-vaxxers and has yet to find someone and something that would be contraindicated for any injectable product. Note, further, that Preben (we're in Norway are all on first-names only) is particularly vain, never wrong, and also omits one crucial factoid from the paper: he's an adjunct professor, and while this might be construed as academic pettiness on my part (a 'real' professor), he could have just said so. Pathetic.
* the second, much more obviously problematic issue at-hand here is that Norway ended all mandates in early February 2022, which makes the study period (2 Feb.-24 April 2022) makes the entire set-up and study population almost entirely absurd: those who continued to wear masks after (almost all) mandates were ended are, well, probably closer to the Japanese you describe so consistently: morons, that is. I suppose, then, that the 'bias' you mention (lolcatz, btw), derives, in no small part, from this peculiar setting of the 'study' against a society that, from February through April 2022, could possibly care spectacularly less (nor nothing at-all).
Thanks for the shout out on your own excellent Substack. You’re far too kind. Your ranting about Preben is also great and adds a level of local knowledge I cannot.
The study shows the maskers got tested at higher rates, which suggests many/most of them were narrative believers, or morons as you put it. I’d love to hear their thoughts on the results.
By the way, over on your stack, you should change “the Japanese you describe so consistently” to “the Japanese he describes so consistently.”
You're way too kind here, my friend, thanks a million.
I would love to hear these thoughts, too, but, alas, all I can offer are (tons of) anecdotes from my neighbours, co-workers, acquaintances. A rough sampling of my eternal second-places (I don't award first spots, because I'd like to keep open the opportunity of even more moronic comments…)
* From a co-worker who got two shots of Moderna in June 2021, experienced no 'side-effects', and said he's 'almost sad he experienced none'.
* From another (different) co-worker who took two jabs of BioNTech/Pfizer in spring 2021, had a pretty bad experience with 'side-effects' and, in autumn 2021, told me he'd never take any more shots, had a pretty bad run-in with 'Covid' in summer 2022 nonetheless, and in autumn last year told me that he'd of course take another jab 'if that's what's needed to travel'.
* From a first responder (nurse) in Sept. 2022: having taken at least two jabs of the BioNTech/Pfizer, she told me that she 'never tested positive for Covid', which, to her, 'proves the vaccine works'.
Enjoy, if you will.
As an aside, these 'chats' are what I absolutely love about the Stackin' Community!
Haha. Most of my friends and acquaintances have been aware of how I feel about Covid-related matter since 2020 and avoid bringing up masks, jabs, etc. in my presence, so I don’t have any good quotes to share.
But I have been to a picnic in a park where people were practicing mask dining (i.e. masking between mouthfuls), just as the expects we’re recommending at the time. Beat that!
Re your example: I kinda (perversely, as in watching a trainwreck or the like) would like to come up with something along these lines, but I can't. I simply can't.
Just went to the link. Words fail. That pic is hard to beat but I can, sadly. I have pics of 4th year med students wearing masks for practice with a simulated patient (Me.) over Zoom.
Oh my, I suspect your experience does beat the pic (that dude wasn't the only one wearing these things, btw).
During some 1.5 years of on-and-off online 'teaching', I've never seen anyone donning a face diaper over Zoom or Teams. Tons of other morons, though, e.g., bikers outside on an otherwise quite empty bike lane in the middle of Norwegian winter (I was there, too, on a bike, but I didn't wear a face diaper). Or, one of my eternal favourites, some elderly woman wearing a yellow 'warn/caution' vest outside a university building in winter 2021/22 (if memory serves) harassing me about wearing a face mask in the corridors; in the hall I was headed to, with some 350 capacity, wearing a face diaper was again optional…
So to summarize whatever the results of an RCT say it must be spun to support the narrative. It is common sense to conclude that breathing in your own CO2 for long periods is both unhealthy and unnatural. I will concede that those who were obsessive about facemask use tended to be more germ phobic and probably did test more. But the mask mandates were not put in place for the reason of germ control...
There have been at least several studies that conclude that masking should be implemented despite what their finding say. Yep, the reasons for mask mandates have nothing to do with public health.
Before making policy on the basis of there being no studies on masks for covid and then using later low quality studies as proof their policies were right, they should have looked at was already known about masks against airborne viruses.
I am becoming more and more convinced that they knew from the get go that mask did not work against viruses. The masks work for something else, and that has nothing to do with protecting health.
“if we want to avoid the authorities again putting ill-conceived restrictions on our actions, we need to put restrictions on the authorities’ ill-conceived actions.”
Remember the news headlines in Canada which proclaimed that both graphene oxide and titanium dioxide had been found in the paper masks?
Mask tyranny enabled graphene oxide and titanium dioxide (nano-sized metals) to be breathed in thus connecting humans to the Internet of Nano Things and the WBAN (Wireless Body Area Network IEEE802.15.6 in the Terahertz Band.)
The masks, genetic jabs and tests ALL contain this SMART (AI) namotechnology which connects humans to the Internet of Bio-Nano Things (IoBNT) for surveillance under the skin.
These crimes of warrantless search and seizure are contrary to Sections 184(1) and 430(5) of the Criminal Code of Canada were the actual reason for the Covid-19 military operation. They needed to get the nanotechnology biosensors into human bodies to connect them to the Cloud. Welcome to the Internet of Bodies. You are a node on the network. Doctors will soon be obsolete because "precision AI health-care" can be done remotely via Artificial Intelligence algorithms based on your digital twin.
My speculation: DOD dead on demand bio kill switches installed via the shots and linked up to the internet of things. 5G, 6G etc. Bingo, population control at the press of a button.
As has become common for me with your postings for some reason, I will comment on it first without reading it and then again after I have read it. While bias is a problem with all research, masks have long been known to have perverse effects against virus control. That is, they have been known to aid in the transmission of viruses rather than reduce them.
Will read after doing the next on the “Honey do” list.
Even in a highly controlled environment face masks don't provide 100% efficacy against airborne pieces of RNA/DNA!
"Results
Significant virus counts were detected on the face while the participants were wearing either surgical or N95 masks. Only the fit-testPASSED N95 resulted in lower virus counts compared to control (P = .007). Nasal swabs demonstrated high virus exposure, which was not mitigated by the surgical/fit-testFAILED N95 masks, although there was a trend for the fit-testPASSED N95 mask to reduce virus counts (P = .058). HEPA filtration reduced virus to near-zero levels when combined with fit-testPASSED N95 mask, gloves, gown, and face shield."
source: https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/226/2/199/6582941?login=false
BUT only with all that other gear... masks only don't do crap! Well... they do provide a source of income for those that manufacture them!
As far as I know, 3M has not run any adds in Japan for their N95 respirator and a reader recently told me that he has not seen nor heard any in the US either. Right in the insert that comes with the respirator is a listing of what it is rated for use against and bacterial is mention as it not being rated for and viruses are not mentioned at all. As the bacteria they note or bigger than the viruses of concern for humans, right there the manufacturer is letting its customers know that the N95 should not be used against viruses. I bet they are happy for the extra revenue but nervous as everyone is using it ways they say not to. But, they re not advertising for it to be used against SARS cov 2.
Just so you know, I am certified in respirator use and knew since long before the panic that they are not to be use as they have been telling us to these past almost 4 years now. I also have long known that they are not benign.
The propaganda was so good they don't even need to waste PROFITS on adds! I still see plenty of idiots wearing the cult artifact. https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-df1
I really do think they are probably quite nervous about it all. There are plenty of adds online anyway, for this and that mask, but I have never seen one for a N95.
Around half here in Tokyo are still wearing masks. Still seeing double masked and masked with face shields too. Madness. Surreality.
Ah, excellent, Guy, for you to look at this one--as a resident in Norway (and frequent reporter--see my Substack), I briefly considered 'participating', if only to see what kind of BS these people were doing.
Two brief things to note (which I may or may not discuss in a posting on my own, who knows, since you already pointed out the most absurd issues):
* the last author, Preben Aavitsland, is kind of one of my bete noires here in this entire shitshow masquerading as a 'public health emergency'; he's one of Norway's leading pro-vaxxers and has yet to find someone and something that would be contraindicated for any injectable product. Note, further, that Preben (we're in Norway are all on first-names only) is particularly vain, never wrong, and also omits one crucial factoid from the paper: he's an adjunct professor, and while this might be construed as academic pettiness on my part (a 'real' professor), he could have just said so. Pathetic.
* the second, much more obviously problematic issue at-hand here is that Norway ended all mandates in early February 2022, which makes the study period (2 Feb.-24 April 2022) makes the entire set-up and study population almost entirely absurd: those who continued to wear masks after (almost all) mandates were ended are, well, probably closer to the Japanese you describe so consistently: morons, that is. I suppose, then, that the 'bias' you mention (lolcatz, btw), derives, in no small part, from this peculiar setting of the 'study' against a society that, from February through April 2022, could possibly care spectacularly less (nor nothing at-all).
Read up on the ending of mandates in Norway here: https://fackel.substack.com/p/covid-in-norway-which-will-end-most
Thanks for the shout out on your own excellent Substack. You’re far too kind. Your ranting about Preben is also great and adds a level of local knowledge I cannot.
The study shows the maskers got tested at higher rates, which suggests many/most of them were narrative believers, or morons as you put it. I’d love to hear their thoughts on the results.
By the way, over on your stack, you should change “the Japanese you describe so consistently” to “the Japanese he describes so consistently.”
You're way too kind here, my friend, thanks a million.
I would love to hear these thoughts, too, but, alas, all I can offer are (tons of) anecdotes from my neighbours, co-workers, acquaintances. A rough sampling of my eternal second-places (I don't award first spots, because I'd like to keep open the opportunity of even more moronic comments…)
* From a co-worker who got two shots of Moderna in June 2021, experienced no 'side-effects', and said he's 'almost sad he experienced none'.
* From another (different) co-worker who took two jabs of BioNTech/Pfizer in spring 2021, had a pretty bad experience with 'side-effects' and, in autumn 2021, told me he'd never take any more shots, had a pretty bad run-in with 'Covid' in summer 2022 nonetheless, and in autumn last year told me that he'd of course take another jab 'if that's what's needed to travel'.
* From a first responder (nurse) in Sept. 2022: having taken at least two jabs of the BioNTech/Pfizer, she told me that she 'never tested positive for Covid', which, to her, 'proves the vaccine works'.
Enjoy, if you will.
As an aside, these 'chats' are what I absolutely love about the Stackin' Community!
Haha. Most of my friends and acquaintances have been aware of how I feel about Covid-related matter since 2020 and avoid bringing up masks, jabs, etc. in my presence, so I don’t have any good quotes to share.
But I have been to a picnic in a park where people were practicing mask dining (i.e. masking between mouthfuls), just as the expects we’re recommending at the time. Beat that!
Re your example: I kinda (perversely, as in watching a trainwreck or the like) would like to come up with something along these lines, but I can't. I simply can't.
But--perhaps I could:
https://fackel.substack.com/p/footnote-25-intl-travel-edition-personal
You be the judge ^_^
Just went to the link. Words fail. That pic is hard to beat but I can, sadly. I have pics of 4th year med students wearing masks for practice with a simulated patient (Me.) over Zoom.
Oh my, I suspect your experience does beat the pic (that dude wasn't the only one wearing these things, btw).
During some 1.5 years of on-and-off online 'teaching', I've never seen anyone donning a face diaper over Zoom or Teams. Tons of other morons, though, e.g., bikers outside on an otherwise quite empty bike lane in the middle of Norwegian winter (I was there, too, on a bike, but I didn't wear a face diaper). Or, one of my eternal favourites, some elderly woman wearing a yellow 'warn/caution' vest outside a university building in winter 2021/22 (if memory serves) harassing me about wearing a face mask in the corridors; in the hall I was headed to, with some 350 capacity, wearing a face diaper was again optional…
https://postimg.cc/5H6N9sx1
So to summarize whatever the results of an RCT say it must be spun to support the narrative. It is common sense to conclude that breathing in your own CO2 for long periods is both unhealthy and unnatural. I will concede that those who were obsessive about facemask use tended to be more germ phobic and probably did test more. But the mask mandates were not put in place for the reason of germ control...
There have been at least several studies that conclude that masking should be implemented despite what their finding say. Yep, the reasons for mask mandates have nothing to do with public health.
Before making policy on the basis of there being no studies on masks for covid and then using later low quality studies as proof their policies were right, they should have looked at was already known about masks against airborne viruses.
I am becoming more and more convinced that they knew from the get go that mask did not work against viruses. The masks work for something else, and that has nothing to do with protecting health.
“if we want to avoid the authorities again putting ill-conceived restrictions on our actions, we need to put restrictions on the authorities’ ill-conceived actions.”
Really great quote!
Remember the news headlines in Canada which proclaimed that both graphene oxide and titanium dioxide had been found in the paper masks?
Mask tyranny enabled graphene oxide and titanium dioxide (nano-sized metals) to be breathed in thus connecting humans to the Internet of Nano Things and the WBAN (Wireless Body Area Network IEEE802.15.6 in the Terahertz Band.)
The masks, genetic jabs and tests ALL contain this SMART (AI) namotechnology which connects humans to the Internet of Bio-Nano Things (IoBNT) for surveillance under the skin.
These crimes of warrantless search and seizure are contrary to Sections 184(1) and 430(5) of the Criminal Code of Canada were the actual reason for the Covid-19 military operation. They needed to get the nanotechnology biosensors into human bodies to connect them to the Cloud. Welcome to the Internet of Bodies. You are a node on the network. Doctors will soon be obsolete because "precision AI health-care" can be done remotely via Artificial Intelligence algorithms based on your digital twin.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/sabrina-wallace-explains-bio-sensors?r=15h968&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
https://rumble.com/v3trz3s-biophotonics-covid-load-balancing-for-the-bankers-human-husbandry.html
https://outraged.substack.com/
https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7Ucxolm5d6K/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wktdC-gJNEE
My speculation: DOD dead on demand bio kill switches installed via the shots and linked up to the internet of things. 5G, 6G etc. Bingo, population control at the press of a button.
Well... It's not just any glasses... It is SUNGLASSES!
Those 6 morons that wrote that waste of resources should just cull themselves wearing sunglasses.