In the almost 3-year-long debate over post-vaccine deaths, vaccine sceptics have often pointed to the clear temporal association between the Covid shots and reported post-vax deaths.
GuyGin, thank you for the breakdown of this study. I talk to people almost daily about the dangers of the COVID vaccine and it’s pretty discouraging that most people are still clueless. Until the mainstream narrative changes, the shots will unfortunately continue.
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Apologies for suddenly tagging onto an indirectly linked post, but for those interested, here's a just-published article - "Japan Tries To Deflect" - https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250384
I recommend copying/pasting the text into a blank document or Notes, reformat to your liking, then read.
It’s all very well saying there appears to be a temporal link but what is the causal link? What is the mechanism behind this alleged relationship?
You need to have the full medical history of each individual, a full medication history, a full allergy history and a detailed cause of death including any autopsy results. Then, maybe, there could be a definitive link established, until that happens then it’s all supposition and conjecture.
A scenario for you: you are working in the garden, you manage to cut yourself and a bacteria called Clostridium Tetani enters the wound. It starts multiplying and develops a toxin that spreads through your body causing paralysis. This has a fatality rate of 10%.
You become infected with Corynebacterium diphtheriae, which starts to multiply and you develop a very bad throat caused by the toxin produced by the bacteria, you have diphtheria with a fatality rate of 10%.
The vaccines produce antibodies against these toxins, not the bacteria, thus you very very unlikely to develop either of these potentially fatal diseases.
Search for polio 1950, look at the photographs of children in iron lungs. About 10 years ago an adult who had been in an iron lung for over 50 years died.
A scenario for you John. You cut yourself and you clean the wound. Problem solved.
You get a sore throat and you gargle with salt water or have a teaspoon of olive oil. Or raw garlic or raw ginger. Problem solved.
Bacteria are exploitative of the condition of the location. Give them the right conditions and they will multiply. So don't give them the right conditions. But don't stick toxic vaccines or drugs etc. into your body as this will obviously make the conditions worse.
I suppose you haven't bothered to read my link, so I will state the blindingly obvious to you as you seem incapable of understanding it.
Vaccines contain toxic substances/foreign bodies as I have said. These cause an immune response. Wonderful.
But that is all they do. Anything produced by big pharma is smoke and mirrors to deceive us. I used to think vaccines were of some use but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway.
In 2020 I had researched properly and realised the full depth of the scam which has gone on since the great fraudster Edward Jenner.
Vaccines are going to make you ill if your immune system, your state of health is poor, subject to what is really in each vial. After all how can we tell?
Each person is an individual with health in varying states. There is no one size fits all as vaccines pretend. Put poisons into man or beast and surprise, surprise no good comes of it. This is basic stuff John, primary school level.
After 3 years of this nonsense only somebody very dim would not be seriously questioning the rational of vaccines. It is clear that big pharma are not there to make people well as it is not good for business.
I see you are a retired nurse. I have a good friend who is now approaching 80 years old I suppose. She has yet to believe me too. I guess that the trauma of realising that injecting children and adults as she presumably has done for decades is not something she wants to contemplate, but face it she will have to.
Perhaps you have vaccinated people yourself and can't face the awful truth.
If you can trouble yourself you may wish to consider this.
I had measles, rubella , chickenpox as a child, my vaccinations were against diphtheria, polio, tetanus. Since then I’ve had vaccinations against hepatitis B, hepatitis A, typhoid, tetanus, TB.
You clearly do not believe in microscopic pathogens or microscopic organisms such as amoeba or paramecia.
I don't believe in big pharma fairy tales that injecting such things with the adjuvants (a deceptive word for toxic substances) is going to protect me from a disease.
It is alleged that they 'train' the immune system based on nothing but statistics manipulated to bamboozle the simple minded and those who haven't the time or resources to double check the reality.
When I was 15 at boarding school in 1975 I had the BCG vaccine delivered by a phaser like machine as in Star Trek. It was air pressure operated I believe. It left a scar which was there for many years.
I was very ill that year in the late spring with what they called German measles. Given what I now know about vaccines I strongly suspect that that must have been the cause.
As I point out it is the condition of the person that matters. Injecting foreign bodies into anybody and thinking this will be good for future health is pure insanity, fostered by the greed of big pharma snake oil sales force and their doctor and nurse de facto 'salespeople'.
Vaccination is a barbaric, ignorant practice and must be terminated.
The tobacco companies could have used you back when they were denying cigarettes cause cancer.
The “causal link” being alleged here is getting the Pfizer covid shots. It’s not necessary to have an explanation on what’s going wrong physiologically (though, as you know, there’s an enormous amount of material on that topic) to conclude the vax is dangerous, as this study does.
Since the best evidence for this product’s safety or lack thereof – the pre-approval RCT – was unblinded (effectively ended) after a preposterously short time, all we will ever have is intelligently constructed observational studies such as the one GG covered here.
I’m not saying that adverse events don’t happen the British National Formulary is full of them, but you do have to show a causal link, then you have to explore the mechanism behind the link including time between the two events, any physiological changes, medical history, any allergies etc. without this information then any claim against the manufacturer will not even meet the civil “balance of probabilities “ never mind the criminal “beyond reasonable doubt”.
Guillain Barre syndrome for example typically occurs 2 weeks after an infection, and is an overreaction of the immune system. If a person reports GBS after the vaccination but had a campylobacter infection a week before then there’s a probability that it’s the infection that triggered the GBS rather than the vaccine.
The issue at hand isn’t making a “claim against the manufacturer”; it’s trying to get people to stop getting injected with the damn stuff.
No one “has to show” all the stuff you say they “have to show” to conclude that a medication is dangerous. If a RCT shows an experimental drug causes injuries and mortality far in excess of any benefit, it shouldn’t be approved or prescribed. It’s not necessary to know the biochemical mechanisms involved to make that call. The evidence and signal are weaker here, but the principle is the same. Human cultures learned to avoid poisonous plants and mushrooms and venomous snakes long before they understood the “mechanisms” of the poisoning. (Though, again, for the record, there are *many* proposed mechanisms by which the mRNA goo may be injuring people.)
If it ever gets to the point where Pfizer has to feel like it has to defend itself, it will doubtless strew all the chaff you cite above and more. That’s what I meant by the crack about the tobacco companies. None of it diminishes the finding GG was good enough to bring to our attention in this post.
I’m undecided whether you’re actually a troll, but you definitely seem like someone who likes to have the last word. You’re welcome to it.
New Zealand data has parts where 30 people were injected one after the other. They are ALL dead now. Quality control is iffy as is frame shifted protein generation. See reddit r/vaccinelonghaulers for those left to research their weird conditions that after tests doctors say no problem but they used to jog 5 miles now can hardly walk around at home.
GuyGin, thank you for the breakdown of this study. I talk to people almost daily about the dangers of the COVID vaccine and it’s pretty discouraging that most people are still clueless. Until the mainstream narrative changes, the shots will unfortunately continue.
Sad but true.
It seems likely to continue until 2024.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/02/07/timeline-anticipated-events-in-world-war-3/
Cynic here.
Climbed Wittgenstein's Ladder without a parachute.
"Show me the incentive, I'll show you the outcome."
Cheers, Guy Gin and Tonic
I wonder how hard it is to do an autopsy? Seems never to be a choice.
In Japan, autopsies are quite rare. If a family wants one done for a relative who died, they'll usually have to foot the bill themselves.
An autopsy is very dangerous to do as the truth might escape and they can't let that happen. :)
check out a petition at citizengo.org..urgent call to action block the pandemic treaty NOW..its a worldwide petition it can be signed and reshared widely from any country in the world including japan..it currently has 415,614 signatures it needs many more and YOU can help to get them by signing it and resharing it widely with as many like minded people and groups as you possibly can and be sure to ask each one of them to do exactly the same...do note dont bother resharing it on facebook as they are blatantly suppressing it however there are other social media platforms and alternative outlets that can be used
Well.
Slow and stupid.
And they catch on eventually.
<eyeroll>
Very well presented, thank you.
Apologies for suddenly tagging onto an indirectly linked post, but for those interested, here's a just-published article - "Japan Tries To Deflect" - https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250384
I recommend copying/pasting the text into a blank document or Notes, reformat to your liking, then read.
It’s all very well saying there appears to be a temporal link but what is the causal link? What is the mechanism behind this alleged relationship?
You need to have the full medical history of each individual, a full medication history, a full allergy history and a detailed cause of death including any autopsy results. Then, maybe, there could be a definitive link established, until that happens then it’s all supposition and conjecture.
True, but since when has injecting poison into somebody ever been a good idea?
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell
A scenario for you: you are working in the garden, you manage to cut yourself and a bacteria called Clostridium Tetani enters the wound. It starts multiplying and develops a toxin that spreads through your body causing paralysis. This has a fatality rate of 10%.
You become infected with Corynebacterium diphtheriae, which starts to multiply and you develop a very bad throat caused by the toxin produced by the bacteria, you have diphtheria with a fatality rate of 10%.
The vaccines produce antibodies against these toxins, not the bacteria, thus you very very unlikely to develop either of these potentially fatal diseases.
Search for polio 1950, look at the photographs of children in iron lungs. About 10 years ago an adult who had been in an iron lung for over 50 years died.
A scenario for you John. You cut yourself and you clean the wound. Problem solved.
You get a sore throat and you gargle with salt water or have a teaspoon of olive oil. Or raw garlic or raw ginger. Problem solved.
Bacteria are exploitative of the condition of the location. Give them the right conditions and they will multiply. So don't give them the right conditions. But don't stick toxic vaccines or drugs etc. into your body as this will obviously make the conditions worse.
I suppose you haven't bothered to read my link, so I will state the blindingly obvious to you as you seem incapable of understanding it.
Vaccines contain toxic substances/foreign bodies as I have said. These cause an immune response. Wonderful.
But that is all they do. Anything produced by big pharma is smoke and mirrors to deceive us. I used to think vaccines were of some use but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway.
In 2020 I had researched properly and realised the full depth of the scam which has gone on since the great fraudster Edward Jenner.
Vaccines are going to make you ill if your immune system, your state of health is poor, subject to what is really in each vial. After all how can we tell?
Each person is an individual with health in varying states. There is no one size fits all as vaccines pretend. Put poisons into man or beast and surprise, surprise no good comes of it. This is basic stuff John, primary school level.
After 3 years of this nonsense only somebody very dim would not be seriously questioning the rational of vaccines. It is clear that big pharma are not there to make people well as it is not good for business.
I see you are a retired nurse. I have a good friend who is now approaching 80 years old I suppose. She has yet to believe me too. I guess that the trauma of realising that injecting children and adults as she presumably has done for decades is not something she wants to contemplate, but face it she will have to.
Perhaps you have vaccinated people yourself and can't face the awful truth.
If you can trouble yourself you may wish to consider this.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/vaccination-industry-in-a-nutshell/
I had measles, rubella , chickenpox as a child, my vaccinations were against diphtheria, polio, tetanus. Since then I’ve had vaccinations against hepatitis B, hepatitis A, typhoid, tetanus, TB.
You clearly do not believe in microscopic pathogens or microscopic organisms such as amoeba or paramecia.
I don't believe in big pharma fairy tales that injecting such things with the adjuvants (a deceptive word for toxic substances) is going to protect me from a disease.
It is alleged that they 'train' the immune system based on nothing but statistics manipulated to bamboozle the simple minded and those who haven't the time or resources to double check the reality.
When I was 15 at boarding school in 1975 I had the BCG vaccine delivered by a phaser like machine as in Star Trek. It was air pressure operated I believe. It left a scar which was there for many years.
I was very ill that year in the late spring with what they called German measles. Given what I now know about vaccines I strongly suspect that that must have been the cause.
As I point out it is the condition of the person that matters. Injecting foreign bodies into anybody and thinking this will be good for future health is pure insanity, fostered by the greed of big pharma snake oil sales force and their doctor and nurse de facto 'salespeople'.
Vaccination is a barbaric, ignorant practice and must be terminated.
Baldmichael is right. We have all been decieved by pharma.
Everything we were taught about vaccines is a lie.
It hurts to admit we were fooled for so long, but the sooner we admit it, the better.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell
The tobacco companies could have used you back when they were denying cigarettes cause cancer.
The “causal link” being alleged here is getting the Pfizer covid shots. It’s not necessary to have an explanation on what’s going wrong physiologically (though, as you know, there’s an enormous amount of material on that topic) to conclude the vax is dangerous, as this study does.
Since the best evidence for this product’s safety or lack thereof – the pre-approval RCT – was unblinded (effectively ended) after a preposterously short time, all we will ever have is intelligently constructed observational studies such as the one GG covered here.
I’m not saying that adverse events don’t happen the British National Formulary is full of them, but you do have to show a causal link, then you have to explore the mechanism behind the link including time between the two events, any physiological changes, medical history, any allergies etc. without this information then any claim against the manufacturer will not even meet the civil “balance of probabilities “ never mind the criminal “beyond reasonable doubt”.
Guillain Barre syndrome for example typically occurs 2 weeks after an infection, and is an overreaction of the immune system. If a person reports GBS after the vaccination but had a campylobacter infection a week before then there’s a probability that it’s the infection that triggered the GBS rather than the vaccine.
The issue at hand isn’t making a “claim against the manufacturer”; it’s trying to get people to stop getting injected with the damn stuff.
No one “has to show” all the stuff you say they “have to show” to conclude that a medication is dangerous. If a RCT shows an experimental drug causes injuries and mortality far in excess of any benefit, it shouldn’t be approved or prescribed. It’s not necessary to know the biochemical mechanisms involved to make that call. The evidence and signal are weaker here, but the principle is the same. Human cultures learned to avoid poisonous plants and mushrooms and venomous snakes long before they understood the “mechanisms” of the poisoning. (Though, again, for the record, there are *many* proposed mechanisms by which the mRNA goo may be injuring people.)
If it ever gets to the point where Pfizer has to feel like it has to defend itself, it will doubtless strew all the chaff you cite above and more. That’s what I meant by the crack about the tobacco companies. None of it diminishes the finding GG was good enough to bring to our attention in this post.
I’m undecided whether you’re actually a troll, but you definitely seem like someone who likes to have the last word. You’re welcome to it.
New Zealand data has parts where 30 people were injected one after the other. They are ALL dead now. Quality control is iffy as is frame shifted protein generation. See reddit r/vaccinelonghaulers for those left to research their weird conditions that after tests doctors say no problem but they used to jog 5 miles now can hardly walk around at home.